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Matchup/Preview/Game Thread Game # 25 at Brewers 7:05 CST

Wandy Rodriguez Tomo Ohka
4 - 0, 2.53 2 - 1, 3.72

We got some nonbelievers out there. John Erhardt at Baseball Prospectus has some issues with those who feel good about Wandy's start:

It's really difficult to accept that, after five starts, Rodriguez has somehow turned a corner and has learned to pitch in the majors. He's got a below-average BABIP, he's posting the lowest walk rate of his career, he hasn't faced very good offenses, and his home run rate is way down from what it's been in the past. And as Dayn Perry demonstrated last year, Minute Maid park is particularly generous to right-handed batters where home runs are concerned. Since he'll pitch more games in Houston than anywhere else, and since he'll face predominantly right-handed lineups, his home run rate has nowhere to go but up. In other words, his April is a great story, but we can't view it as predictive of a level of performance he's never shown before.

Aside from the fact that Wandy's numbers crosscheck pretty well, that he's, for example, ninth in the league in that sabermetric darling, Component ERA*, my issue with the lines quoted above is more with their logic.

Look, I'm not going to say that Wandy doesn't have a harder road to travel than those few lefties out there who throw eight miles an hour faster than he does. But it's interesting how many of these snarky commentators make the assumption that a player as he was is the player as he is going to be.

Improving your skills as they match against the talent pool that is major league baseball admittedly is an extremely difficult task. But somebody like Rodriquez is going to spend all the time he can in attempting to improve. You think Wandy isn't aware that his five and a half ERA last year wasn't very good? Is it so difficult to believe that a pitcher who is willing to work hard and listen to his pitching coach will be able to make substantive improvement?

When it comes right down to it, Mr. Erhardt's argument is logically fallacious. He says that "[Wandy]'s posting the lowest walk rate of his career, he hasn't faced very good offenses, and his home run rate is way down from what it's been in the past."

First off, just how is the fact that he's shown improvement in walk and home run rates proof that the improvements won't continue? It's absurd. Mr. Erhardt's basic fallacy is his assumption that Wandy sucks; when facts counterindicate, he appeals to his assumption.

As far as the strength of opposition, he's got more of a point. Wandy has faced Florida, Washington, Arizona, Pittsburgh, and the Dodgers. And the Nationals, the Pirates and the Marlin are each in the bottom five in runs scored, it is true. But Arizona and Los Angeles are ranked sixth and seventh, and Wandy pitched his best game against the highest-ranked club.

Even more to the point, it's selective criticism. You certainly don't hear anybody saying how Roy's fast start is an aberration, although he's faced much the same opposition as Rodriguez has.

Fact is, arguments like the one Prospectus has presented here pretend at a rigorousness they don't in fact possess. Wandy may or may not end up winning fifteen games, but if he doesn't, it certainly won't validate any arguments that take the form: "he sucked before, therefore, he must suck now."

Rodriguez v.2005 fared pretty well against Milwaukee. Wandy was 2 - 0 in three starts against the Brew Crew with a 3.44 ERA. The WHIP was 1.36, a little high but not terrible.

His best game against them was probably last September 18 when he gave up 1 over 6-1/3 and beat Chris Capuano.

Wandy gave up 4 earned runs over 6 innings and got a win in his only previous appearance at Miller Park.

Carlos Lee is 1 for 9 with a single in nine plate appearances (!) off Wandy, Geoff Jenkins 2 for 5 with what looks to be a hit-by-pitch. Brady Clark has only 3 at bats, but with two hits that were both doubles.

Ausmus is 3 for 8 off Ohka with two doubles and two walks, Berkman, 3 for 8 with two doubles and one walk. Preston has seen him the most, and is 5 for 16 with a walk and a couple of ribeyes.

Overall, Ohka is 1 - 3 against Houston with a 6.38, having given up 26 hits and 3 walks to the Astros since he came into the National League in 2001.

A single point separates the team on base percentages of the Brewers and the Astros, with Houston at .355 and Milwaukee at .354. Hopefully, the games aren't that close.

On Base Percentage
OBP Astro Pos Brewer OBP
x .462 Brad Ausmus C1 Damian Miller .397
.261 Eric Munson C2 Chad Moeller .310 x
x .413 Lance Berkman 1B Prince Fielder .400
.350 Craig Biggio 2B Rickie Weeks .353 x
x .304 Adam Everett SS JJ Hardy .281
x .467 Morgan Ensberg 3B Corey Koskie .343
.394 Jason Lane OF1 Carlos Lee .415 x
.333 Willy Taveras OF2 Geoff Jenkins .361 x
.276 Preston Wilson OF3 Brady Clark .326 x
.125 Orlando Palmeiro OF4 Gabe Gross .417 x
x .447 Chris Burke Util/PH Bill Hall .354

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*And yes, as of 5/1/06, Taylor Buchholz DOES lead the National League in Component ERA. . . .

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Comments

Let the negotiations begin!
so apparently the Astros aren't wasting any time making a serious bid at getting Roger back.

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports/3832008.html

my hope was that all his "i'm not going to play until June or July" talk was just a smokescreen since he couldn't officially talk to the Astros, not wanting to completely ward off the competetive bidders, but really just biding his time until he could actually sign with us.  maybe that's not the case.  i don't expect him to be suiting up anytime this month, but it'd be nice to get some positive signs from his camp here in the next week or two.  i mean, we've been holding our breath now for almost six months since we decided not to offer him arbitration.  it'd be nice to exhale know that he's still going to be pitching for us this year.

Clemens
That's real good to hear.  Not surprised to see that Gammons was (again) simply way off base with his trial balloon about McLane being unwilling to belly up with the dough.

Here's a story on the Clemens affair from The Washington Post that I found interesting.

And here's a really optimistic viewpoint (at least for the Astros) from New York Newsday.

I have little doubt that Steinbrenner and Cashman can come up with even more of the crispy green for Rocket, but I also understand that Los Yanquis are unwilling to give Roger the freedom to skip road trips, etc., that the Astros gave him last year.  How much is that worth?

Others have said that Koby being on the DL makes it less likely that Clemens will care about the curtailment of his freedom, but the way it looks now, the younger Clemens should be back with Lexington by the time his old man is ready to pitch.

If you've been checking out the left sidebar, and that new "Astros Newsfeed" the techs have installed, you probably saw the Sean McAdam article from ESPN. McAdam is all bitter about the game Roger's playing, he ain't gonna stand for it anymore, he's not gonna take it, etc., etc.

Sounds like another Red Sox whiner to me.

I dunno--maybe I'm weird, but as an Astros fan, the game Clemens is playing just doesn't bother me.  Let him get what he can at his most favorable terms, is what I say.  Fine with me; them's the perks of being so good at what he does.

I still think this whole thing was talked about, if not exactly pre-arranged, before the Astros failed to offer arbitration, and all I ask now is that the Astros put a competitive offer on the table.

Which apparently they have done.

I have a hard time taking any of that seriously...
it was a whiny and passive aggresive and, well, them trying to excuse themselves for again underestimating the team. I don't buy any of it. Who knows if Wandy maintains his current pace, I sure don't, but their logic doesn't convince me for a minute.

In fact, I think it only convinces those who want tobe convinced.

i agree
most of us that follow the Astros were a bit taken back by Wandy's first couple starts, not sure what to believe.  he seemed to be doing a lot of things right, but the precedent for sustained success just wasn't there.  after five starts, and getting to examine what he's doing differently more closely, and hearing some sound explanations from Hickey and Garner, it's not so tough to swallow that maybe he HAS turned a page in his career.  i'm not going to figure on him winning 20 games and finishing the season with a sub-3.00 ERA, but i think the prospect of him turning into a legitimate middle of the rotation starter is looking a lot more believable right now.  i'm not sure why that's so tough for other people to accept.
But see...
See, I've got issues w/ people who act like Wandy out-and-out stunk last year. He didn't. Had some great outings. It's just that he lacked a mechanism for consistency. I think he may just have discovered that this year. Do I expect him to be consistent at THIS level? Say a 20-win season w/ an ERA under 3? I doubt it.

But can he manage an ERA somewhere between 3.25 and 3.75 w/ maybe 15 wins? I think he can have that kind of consistency. He put in the time and the work to make adjustments, afterall. It's circular logic to say he can't possibly make improvements to being a good middle of the rotation pitcher because he wasn't one last year.

But how many rookies are as rookies what they are later in their careers? Besides Roy Oswalt and Albert Pujols, anyway.

I disagree....
Wandy Rodriguez COMPLETELY stunk last year! Throw his record out the window and look at the rest of his stats, he was terrible.

I do agree that as only a 2nd year player this year, he does have potential to turn it around, although I don't think he will put up the same stats throughout the season that he has so far. I think realistic expectations of a better Wandy Rodriguez is a 13-15 game winner with an ERA of around 4....just my opinion

My point was that he did actually have...
the POTENTIAL for it. He had a couple of outings that showed this was possible. Yeah he pretty much stunk the rest of last year, but it's not like that's atypical for rookies not named Roy Oswalt, lol...
Well it depends according to that article...
Whether Roger is going for an contract for 18 million dollars or one that will actually pay him that.

As it alludes to in the article, an $18MM contract prorated to, say, 108 games is more like $10.6MM. If he actually wants to be paid that $18MM this season the contract would be more like (eeegads!) $31.5MM.

I don't think the 'Stros will go for that.

But at least they're starting out reasonably at this point.

Why does Roger want that much money?
The guy is flat-out loaded as it is.... If he decides he is going to pitch again its not to pay his bills, so why is the asking price so high?! ridiculous! Maybe his agents are responsible?
I have no freakin' clue...
blame my tendency to overanalyze everything on that question even coming up, lol!
Lineups...
'Stros:
2B, Biggio
CF, Taveras
1B, Berkman
3B, Ensberg
LF, Wilson
RF, Lane
C,  Munson
SS, Everett
P,  Rodriguez

Brew Crew:
2B, Weeks
SS, Hardy
RF, Jenkins
LF, Lee
1B, Fielder
3B, Hall
C,  Miller
CF, Clark
P,  Ohka

Allow me a second for a brief kvetch...
I can't believe it took until 10 minutes before the game to get the Gameday up. Someone was asleep on the job!
Top of the 1st...
Bidge leading off.
Bidge w/a base-hit up the middle...
on the second pitch. Nice.

Willy T up.

Haha that was funny to watch.
Good for Willy.
That was more like a series of errors...
than just one error. Was a throwing error on Ohka and then whomever on the boot in shallow right...
Ohka didn't have a play on
Willy anyways.  So I assume the error on Ohka would be what allowed him to take second and a base hit was what allowed him to take first.
Gameday agrees.
It's a hit for Willy.
Willy on w/ a bunt...
whether it's a hit or a two-base error, though, remains to be seen.

Willy at 2nd and Bidge at 3rd for Lance. No outs.

It's a bunt hit and an error (or series of same)

Berkman grounds back up the middle to drive in Bidge. Willy still at 2nd w/ one out for Mo.

Mo flies out...
P-Dub up.
P-Dub grounds out to Hardy...
to end the inning.

Ack. Bad form, boys!

Bottom of the 1st...
Weeks leading off.
I was going to make fun of Weeks'
reaction to realizing the ball went foul, but then again isn't that the kind of hustle you want To where he doesn't know it's gone foul until he's way up the line?
Weeks Ks him on a curve...
Hardy up.
err he Ks him on a curve...
whichever, lol!
Hardy lines out to Lil E
after having to bend over to even get his bat on the ball.

Jenkins up.

Jenkins w/ a base-hit up the middle...
that trickles past a diving Bidge and lunging lil E.

It's all good. I hope.

Lee up.

It is!

He grounds out to Mo to end the inning. Wee!

Top of the 2nd...
Jason leading off.
Ugh...
You're killing me Jason! But how he took that one pitch I'll never figure out.

Munson up.

It looks like Munson
went to the Bagwell School of Batting Stance.
you're right...
LOL!

That's like a combo of pre-1994 Baggy (w/ all the movement) and 94-present Baggy w/ the squattiness of it.

I guess I should've added he grounded...
out to 2nd...

LOL!

Eric flies out to Lee.

I wasn't expecting that ball to get that far, lol!

Lil E up.

What kind of swing was that!?!
Ugh Everett.  You disappoint me.
Lil E Ks to end the inning...
Wow, that went swimmingly well...
Bottom of the 2nd...
Fielder leading off.
Fielder walks...
Hall up.
Wandy had a little attitude showing
after the Fielder walk.  You could tell he was pouting.  Bad Wandy, bad.
Hall Ks...
Miller up.

Howsabout a DP ground from Mr. Miller?

ground*ER*...
It's too bad you can't get an edit feature on this thing, Rastro...
Ugh...
Miller w/ a double to the gap.

Clark up.

Clark HBP...
Lil shit stuck his knee out there. Ahh well, it puts the DP back in order. C'mon, Wandy!

Ohka up.

Ohka w/ a line-out back to Wandy...
Oy.

Bases still loaded (yeah, I know I haven't spelled that out.)

Weeks up.

Wandy quasi-clutchly gets...
Weeks to fly out to Jason to end the inning.

Whew. Crisis averted.

Wandy's evil twin is pitching tonight.
We've had a lot of evil twins...
pitch for us here lately...
Left Some Curveballs Up
But threw some good ones too.  First pitch to Weeks was a beaut.

Still. . .Must.  Keep.  Ball. Down.

Top of the 3rd...
Wandy leading off.
He pops out to Hall...
for the first out of the inning.

Bidge up.

Bidge pops out to Miller...
Gag. Me.

Willy T up.

Willy Ks swinging at...
apparently a high change up. Yuck.
Bottom of the 3rd...
Hardy leading off.
he sord pop-flies out to P-Dub in shallow...
LF.

Jenkins up.

he grounds out to Bidge for the 2nd out...
of the inning.

Lee up.

Ugh...
Lee w/ a solo HR.

Scuze me while I go look for a trashcan to puke in.

Fielder up.

But he grounds out to Lance on the first pitch. If our boys can give Wandy his typical run support then I'll take it. Question is, will they?

Game tied 1-1 after 3.

Top pf the 4th...
Lance leading off.

Now when exactly is Mr. Munson going to get hot and start mashing? I'm impatient and want a dinger soon!

He flies out to Clark...
Mo up.
Mo flies out to Clark...
I'm getting really fucking sick of CFers who think they can steal our boys' doubles.

Bastids.

P-Dub up.

A very ugly K for P-Dub to end the inning...
Games like this make me want to throw things. A lot.
Bottom of the 4th...
Hall leading off.
Hall on w/ a lil bouncer up the middle...
Miller up. Double play would be lovely.
Nope, Miller sacs him to 2nd...
Clark up.
He flies out to Willy on the 1st pitch...
Ohka up w/ 1 on and 2 outs.
Wow...
that AB reminded me of that Dae Sun Koo AB (that's the guy's name, right?) except that instead of leaving the bat on his shoulder the entire AB w/o thinking of swinging he had three successive bad swings guaranteed to produce and easy out, lol!

Don't ask me why exactly that reminded me of the Koo AB, I have no clue!

Top of the 5th...
Jason leading off again. Nows about time for the Wandy Effect to, uhh, take effect.
Another very ugly K...
this time for Jason. Rut roh.

Munson up. Save us, PLEASE!

Atavism
Certain players are reverting to 2005 form tonight.
Wandy E. and Jason?
Eric walks!
Weee!

Lil E up.

As does lil E...
Wandy up.
Wandy sacs him Munson to 3rd...
and Lil E to 2nd...

Bidge up.

Bidge flies out to Jenkins to end the inning...
Ugh.
sounds like a frusturating game
I'm watching Yanks/Sox, which has been a very good game, 3-3 right now..
Bottom of the 5th..
Weeks leading off.
He lines over lil E...
to LF for a base-hit...

Nice effort, dude!

Hardy up.

Lovely...
Weeks steals 2nd...
Hardy grounds out to Mo for the first out...
Jankins up.
Nice save, Eric...
C'mon Wandy, banish thine evil twin!
You don't see *THAT*
very often (a pickoff attempt at 2nd.)

Jenkins sacs Weeks to 3rd.

Lee up.

Wandy deflects a comebacker back...
to Bidge who throws on to Lance to end the inning.

Quasi clutch again. C'moooon, bats!

Top of the 6th...
Willy T leading off.
Ohka done...
strange,being removed after only 64 pitches. Ahh, right shoulder discomfort, they're saying.

Capellan in to pitch.

Ugh. Willy hits one right down the line to 1st. But Fielder traps it under his belly and turns around to first to get the first out of the inning.

Lance up.

He flies out to the warning track for the 2nd out.

Yuck.

Mo up.

Mo flies out to Jenkins...
to end the inning.

Would it kill them to play a little small ball and quit trying to hit them out?

Bottom of the 6th...
Fielder leading off.
That was an interesting AB...
Strikes out swinging at really high FBs.

Weirdness.

Hall up.

Hall jacks one...
2-1, Brew Crew.

Wandy again gets the next batter on one pitch.

Miller quickly grounds out to Lance.

Clark up.

He flies out to Willy T to end the inning...
C'mon, boys, lets get that run back!
Bill Hall absolutely kills lefties
Top of the 7th...
P-Dub leading off.
P-Dub grounds out to Weeks...
Ugh.

Jason up.

Jason flies out to Jenkins...
Munson up.
And that's what we got his ass for!
HR, Munson to tie the game again!

2-2 tie!

Lil E up...
He Ks to end the inning.
Hall
has OPS of 1.747 vs LHP this year, and to prove its not a fluke had a OPS of .967 vs LHP last year...
Bottom of the 7th...
Cirillo in to pinch hit.
Cirillo on w/ a base-hit...
Weeks up.

Gar's taking out Wandy and Eric.

the Bradley is coming in to catch, either Wheels or Springer to pitch.

Wheels is, in fact, zee peecher...
Weeks bunts back towards the mound...
effectively grounding into a force for Cirillo.

Hardy up.

Hardy Ks looking for the second out...
Nice pitch, Dan!

Jenkins up.

Jenkins on w/ a base-hit...
Lee up.
He flies out to P-Dub to end the inning...
I told my dad a couple pitches before that happened 'flyout to Willy T to end the inning.'

I'll take being off a fielder on this one!:-)

Top of the 8th...
Bradley leading off.

Wise in to pitch.

He grounds out to Hall...
for the first out.

Bidge up.

Bidge tried to stretch a double into a triple...
and, well...he doesn't!

Ooookay!

Willy T up.

Willy T flies out to Jenkins to end the inning.
Well that sucked.
I could understand if Manso said run.
But Bidge was told to stop.  Bah.
I think that was one of Bidge's...
I'm in my own world moments...

Cuz really there's no other excuse for a 40 year old, 19 year veteran to do THAT.

But I won't hold it against him because for every moment like that he's just as automatic w/ his doubles and HBP this season, so...

Bad Bidge, Bad!
rookie mistake
by a vet, WTF!
Bottom of the 9th...
Fielder leading off.
Ummm...yeah...8th...
or something...
He walks...
Hall up.

A DP would be ever so lovely...

He hits a double to LF...
Miller up.
Sac fly to RF...
brings Fieler home...

Hall to 3rd.

Clark up.

Grr.
I am not liking our bullpen.
I'm officially done of w/ them the whole lot...
until they can all go an entire freakin' week w/o giving a run up. They're fucking killing me!
Nah
We can keep Borkowski.  The rest of them can take a hike for awhile.
Clark sacs
Hall home for the 2nd run of the inning. Absolutely suckful, Danley.

Gallo coming in to face Gross.

whaddaya know...
we finally get the Mofo out and Gallo's the one who does it. See that's where he's good. Mop up duty.
Game Goat: Craig Biggio
Natch. It's Wheeler.
Top of the 9th...
Lance leading off. It'd be nice if the middle of our order can bring us back from certain defeat.

Turnbow McGoofyass in to pitch.

Lee gives us a gift...
but Lance gives it back. However we still get a base-hit out of it.

Mo up.

Berkman was watching
for his homerun and not running.  Sloppy.
Mo Ks on ball 4...
crap.

P-Dub up.

Is this the night Pdub saves us?
*sigh*
Why do I expect anything more out of him?
P-Dub Ks looking...
I don't know what's pissing me off more today. The sloppiness of the play. The baserunning. The hitting. The relief pitcing.

Laner up.

I think it's the relief pitching
When it's a tie game, you just cannot be sloppy about it.  And in the second inning of work, Wheels was sloppy.
Yeah...
It really should've been Russ in the 7th and Danley in the 8th or vice versa in case Danley needs to pitch tomorrow.

Y'know, in some ways this team is more frustrating than last year's when they lose because you feel like they have enough talent and are in every game to the point where you feel like they never should lose.

Now of course, obviously you logically know they can't win 'em all, but I can't stand losing games this well pitched by the starter because of lack of a) timely hitting and b) good relief pitching.

I also hate that the team seemed so
lazy.

Other then a few players (Eric, Wandy, and Lance), you could tell they just didn't want to be there and were going to do everything in their power to finish the game.  The ninth was one of the sloppiest ninths I've seen in awhile.  You do not swing at any and everything just because you can.

And I'm pissed the runs were allowed on two sac flys.  In the least Danley should have thrown freaking low balls in order to induce a possible groundball.  He just threw bad pitches.  

I think the sloppiness is absolutely...
the mmost gaulling thing. I can take the occassional loss, but they've been playing one helluva sloppy brand of baseball the last few games. Subsequently they've lost three of the four.

Lack of hustle from Lance, though, annoyed the living crap out of me because he's better than standing there watching his HRs. Particularly when they're flyouts to the warning track that glance off the Lee's glove. That was bad on his part (so much so that JD brought it up).
and for minutes after. Lance is another story.

BTW, I might note that JD and Brownie called Lance and Bidge out for their late inning fauz pas. A lot. That's very telling, I think.

Ignore this line...
"and for minutes after. Lance is another story."

I didn't delete all of an entire thought, apparently, so it makes no sense.

The only reason I included Lance
because even if he did stand around like a preening duck, he did something.  Most of the others can't say that.

It's not good if our boys are already bored with baseball for the year.  Especially the veterans.  Biggio and Lance are the cornerstone of this team and if they don't produce, noone will.  

Here's to hoping Garner chewed them all a new one and we post a number of runs early tomorrow.

Jason Ks to end the game.
This game SUCKED!

Except for Eric's first HR. That was cool.

Ugh
Watched it at Kennealy's. Combine Wheeler coming apart with no Guinness and it was truly a hard night to live through.

Oh well. On the other screen, the Red Sox crushed the Yankees. Seek happy where you can find it.

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