It appears that several members of my twitter feed feel that with the Super Bowl now over baseball season has begun. The NBA, NHL and March Madness might have something to say about that, but I'll play along.
While baseball still does have two months until it engulfs our lives, pitchers and catchers report in less than two weeks and a week or so after that Florida and Arizona will again be filled with the crack of the bat and the whizzing of fastballs. With that in mind here are the Astros Spring Training story lines to keep an eye on during the month designated March Madness.
Who Wins the Third Base Job
It seems that the battle is between Jimmy Paredes and Chris Johnson despite my best efforts to get Matt Downs thrown in the conversation. Paredes has the defensive upside while Johnson has the power upside and Downs apparently has the pine upside.
Clack has already discussed in-depth Johnson's upside and ability to bounce back from his sophomore slump. I'll add that when Johnson went down to AAA last year he posted a BB% of 10.6 which is encouraging. With a .383 batting average on balls in play (BABIP) Paredes has got some serious regression coming his way. Whats interesting about his case is that he also struck out at a 26.3% of the time which is high, even for someone like Johnson. Paredes strikeout number had never been above 20% in the minors until the 2011 season (20.7% at AA).
Paredes strikeout rate could be a case of being rushed to the majors; spending more time in the minors could help his development. Let's also not forget that he only recently started playing third base on a full-time basis and still needs some work at the hot corner. In the minors he's played 112 games at third base and 197 at second base.
In limited playing time the pine rider posted a .276/.347/.518 line accompanied by a .315 BABIP. At the third base position that's an above average offensive player. Defensively he's closer to Johnson than he is to Paredes. Thing is Downs has been shifted around quite a bit in the infield as well and has even found a little time in the outfield, so given some solid time at one position we could see some improvements. Downs is probably better suited for second base but you can't ignore that offensive production at the third base position, even if it regresses a bit this season.

Who Fills Out The Rotation
The only sure things in the rotation are that Wandy Rodriguez, Brett Myers and Bud Norris have one of the first three spots, the other two are up for grabs. For sanity sake I'm going to avoid naming all ten pitchers vying for the fourth and fifth spot in the rotation. The two pitchers I'd peg in the lead right now are Livan Hernandez and J.A. Happ simply because of age and experience. Happ has nothing left to prove in AAA and this season may be make or break for him, especially considering he's making $2.35 Million.
Hernandez is...well Hernandez. He's going to go out there and provide close to 30 starts a season, last year he had 29 but that was the first time since 1997 that he didn't manage to reach 30 starts. His career 5.56 strikeouts per nine (K/9) and 3.03 walks per nine (BB/9) leave something to be desired, but he's proven to be durable and reliable for a back end of the rotation starter.
Potential starters that could make the bullpen are Zach Duke, Xavier Cedeno, Lucas Harrell, Henry Sosa and Aneury Rodriguez. Then there are the young guys who if they don't make the rotation out of Spring Training will most likely be a part of the rotation of the future: Jordan Lyles, Kyle Weiland and Paul Clemens.
Hmm...well I guess I did name all nine pitchers.
The Trifecta That is First Base, Left Field and Right Field
It's been speculated that Carlos Lee's position could be at either first base or in left field. However, If you've read the most recent article at Astros.com you'll notice a tid bit in there that makes it pretty clear where Lee will be playing.
About the only positions not up for grabs are first base, where Carlos Lee returns in the sixth and final year of his contract
That almost certainly sounds like Brett Wallace will be Oklahoma's starting first basemen this season. But that's not all, there was also some information on J.D. Martinez.
Martinez is all but assured a starting job in the outfield based on his bang-up 2011 debut after being called up from Double-A.
As you'll notice Martinez isn't designated for left field so it's possible that someone like Jack Cust or Fernadno Martinez could grab a spot as the starting left fielder. I certainly think Brian Bogusevic has the upper hand in right field but it's far from a sure thing that he'll be the starter come April. And I don't know how much I buy into Lee for sure being the starting first baseman, but this could be an indication about how the Astros front office feels about Wallace. In any case while the trifecta position battle may not happen, we should at least see some interesting battles for the corner outfield spots..
The Back End of the Bullpen
One of the reason why we won't be discussing the shortstop position much this Spring is because the Astros somehow managed to pry Jed Lowrie from the Red Sox for former Astros closer Mark Melancon. Jeff Luhnow managed to fix one need, but in doing so left a gaping hole in the bullpen -- I'd rather have that hole than one at shortstop. While we could be cringing in May when the Astros reach double digits in blown saves that really wouldn't be all that different from last year.
Among the candidates for the closers role are Juan Abreu, David Carpenter, Wilton Lopez, Fernando Rodriguez, the rule 5 selection Rhiner Cruz and yes everyone's favorite Brandon Lyon. According to our own injury expert Subber10, even just pitching for the Astros may be a feat on its own for Lyon. Abreu and Cruz have the stuff but lack control; Carpenter has the fastball but not much else; Lopez is coming off injury and is probably better suited in the setup role anyways; and Rodriguez has a deep repertoire but is very hittable. With so few innings to evaluate relievers in Spring Training don't be surprised if the bullpen battle carries over into the season.
If you want a more in depth look at closer candidates I'd suggest reading conrestro's article from December.
Avoiding Injuries
There's nothing like a Spring Training injury to crush the hopes of fans. Last year for the Astros it was Jason Castro and Clint Barmes. Instead of waiting for Spring Training this year Castro decided to get the injury out of the way during the offseason. Recent reports indicate he'll be ready for Opening Day but Lance Berkman said the same thing a few seasons ago he didn't show until May.
It's not so much that Astro fans thought the Astros would of been competitive last year, but instead of seeing what Castro could do we saw what J.R. Towles couldn't do. This lead to a revolving door at the catching position before finally seeing Carlos Corporan and Humberto Quintero settle in with a majority of the playing time. Q provides some entertaining defense especially when he pulls off plays like this, but that's about the only positive thing you can say about that tandem. The same thing happened at the shortstop position where we got to see almost a full month of Angel Sanchez.
Injuries are probably going to play a part in how some of these position battles play out, but the hope is managing to avoid anything serious. I'm putting in the paperwork for a restraining order against Will Carroll.
Who Wins the Second Base Job
These next two positions will probably be on the lighter side of competition. The heir apparent at second base appears to be Jose Altuve but again I wouldn't count out Matt Downs. Altuve certainly held his own both offensively and defensively last season, but there's a concerning trend in regards to his walk rate. He started 2011 in A+ at Lancaster and posted an 8% walk rate. In Corpus Christi at AA he posted a 4.6% walk rate. At the Major league level he posted a 2.1% walk rate, which isn't going to cut it. His BABIP doesn't give much hope as he posted a .309 to go along with a .276/.297/.357 line. Like Paredes spending some more time in the minors wouldn't be a bad thing; banking on him fixing his walk issues at the Major League level could be.
Who Starts in Center Field
I'm calling this the dark horse position battle, because it has the potential to be very interesting. I think you have to pencil in Jordan Schafer in center field simple because of his potential that no other current outfielder seems to have. However, with the recent peanut butter cup incident the Astros should be keeping the eraser close. Jason Bourgeois would be adequate there and does provide speed, but not the on base skills for the top of the lineup. Recently signed Justin Ruggiano could be an option as he's proven to be sound defensively and could pull a Bogusevic this year. Maybe there's someone else the Astros are willing to try like a Bogusevic or Travis Buck.
It will certainly be interesting to see who ends up there and we might even be able to gauge how far the Astros are willing to go in trying something creative.
Will There be a Change in Brad Mills Philosophy
This won't be an easy one to determine from Spring Training as players are in and out of games before you've grabbed your first hot dog. It's not secret that some fans have been upset with Mills' use of some players (see: Brett Wallace, Brian Bogusevic, Jason Michaels, Angel Sanchez, Matt Downs). Yes fans do typically have something to gripe about, especially when a team is bad, but I don't think it's all necessarily unwarranted.
From Wallace and Bogusevic sitting against lefties to Sanchez getting more plate appearances than Downs, not finding out what a young player can do in a lost season doesn't help with the rebuilding process. As fans with an objective view that drives us nuts and doesn't help us feel hope for the rebuilding process. I'm not ready to give up on Mills especially with a new regime and more statistical resources at his disposal. Mills has the potential to grow as a manager and I'd like to see some of that growth occurring in Spring Training.
Who Takes a Step Forward and Who Takes a Step Backward
This is going to be a recurring theme in both the Major Leagues and Minor Leagues this season, but there are some players who will need to take a step forward in Spring Training. Wallace is probably the first name that jumps to mind. He struggled last year and signs aren't particularly good for his future, but this could be a big Spring Training for him.
Will Jose Altuve and Jimmy Paredes confirm that their call-ups last season were warranted? Can Schafer put all his off the field issues behind him and get some stability in his on field numbers? Can Lowrie be the shortstop that makes Luhnow look like a genuis? There are several surprises both good and bad awaiting us in Spring Training.
It's good to have baseball back.
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good read
Good article, I for one am ready baseball. Wasn’t Wallace released from his winter ball team because he was struggling so bad? What’s the peanut butter cup incident? I’d like to see Lyles, Cossart, and Clemens at AAA, maybe I can see them pitch when they visit the Bees this summer.
PuhlRuhles - February 8, 2012 via iPhone app
http://blog.chron.com/ultimateastros/2011/10/04/astros-schafer-charged-with-felony-possession-of-cannibis/
I guess I should add that to the article as well, thanks for the heads up.
and yes Wallace was released from his winter ball team after a poor showing.
Timothy De Block - February 8, 2012
Wallace to have some starts at 3rd during ST
So you could add him to the mix.
lawson3 - February 8, 2012 via mobile
…that’s one way to make Chris Johnson’s defense look good. :)
clack - February 8, 2012
…despite my little joke, I have suggested over the past year that the Astros try to find out if Wallace can play 3d base at anything close to acceptable.
clack - February 8, 2012
A Chronicle article ths week said Astros have worked out Wallace at third
for the past month. Third was his natural position when he started pro ball so he should be able to transition well. The big focus will be on his batting.
Joe in Birmingham - February 12, 2012
Yikes.
MadMartygan - February 14, 2012
I suspect this tweet from Chris Johnson is a response to people asking about the chron.com story saying that Brett Wallace will compete with CJ for third base:
clack - February 8, 2012
Perhaps the most interesting Astros' spring training in many years
Like you say, lots of story lines, perhaps more than in the regular season.
Some random thoughts…
I like Downs getting a lot of playing time, but since his defense isn’t that great, I don’t mind if he is moved around the field rather than given a set starting spot. The more I look at it, the more I believe that Downs will suffer some regression next year, both in batting average and OPS. The question is how much? I don’t know for sure, but I wouldn’t be surprised by a .250 BA and mid- .700’s OPS. That’s still a very useful player and better than most hitters on the Astros’ roster, but not as good as the expectations fans may have from 2011.
I noticed McTaggert’s comment about Lee as the first baseman. It’s hard to know if McTaggert is reflecting Astros’ management views or just his own view. (Sometimes his views about whom the Astros will play turns out wrong.) My guess is that this is McTaggert’s opinion, but I give it some deference because he spends more time than us with Astros’ coaches and front office people. And it’s not a really surprising prediction to say that Lee likely will be playing a lot of first base, right? I’m not sure that it means Wallace will be in OKC. If he plays well in the spring, I could see Wallace on the roster in some sort of platoon arrangement with Lee and the outfielders.
As for Mills…while I didn’t agree with all of his decisions, I don’t criticize his propensity to platoon players. As I’ve said before, I don’t think that reasonable platoon systems are antithetical to development of young player; in fact, I think it can be helpful to the development of young players. In any event, I would guess that platooning (to the extent that it is likely to produces value) will be encouraged by the new regime. Platooning is generally favored by sabermetrics, because it enables a team to get production at a more cost effective way. And it’s not hard to see the platoon pieces that have been given to Mills by the front office with the signings so far.
I am concerned about the bullpen, and I would like to have seen a cheap bounce back type relief pitcher signing (and maybe we will still see it). I don’t expect Lyon to produce anything. I would handicap the closer position as (1) Carpenter and (2) Lopez. But it’s a free for all, as Timmy implies. I think the Astros may feel that they have so many also-rans among the No. 5 starter candidates that they can find some decent arms for the pen among them.
Livan Hernandez is interesting, if nothing else. He is one of those guys who gets lots of contact, but a lot of it is weak contact. He is kind of the Glavine of RHPs. Despite his consistently low K rate, Hernandez continues to post decent FIPs in almost every season. His FIP the last three seasons (2009 first): 4.44; 3.95; 3.96. Career FIP: 4.36.
Another interesting point. on how things have changed:
This Fangraphs article places the Astros in the “Highly Analytical Organizations” category, and calls the Ruggiano signing as a “sabermetric” acquisition.
clack - February 8, 2012
Carpenter does have the closer fastball advantage over Lopez. Hopefully he can continue to develop a secondary pitch. Maybe Luhnow’s familiarity with Carpenter and the fact that he also played an Integral part in Carpenter’s switch to a pitcher may favor Carpenter as closer 1 as well. The bullpen lacks ML experience, but does have some intriguing arms competing for a spot.
If Paredes doesn’t break camp with the team then its possible that Wallace could split time platooning with Lee at first and Johnson at third since the organization appears to be serious about giving Wallace a shot at third. He better be in the best shape of his life and then some to pull that off.
conroestro - February 8, 2012 via mobile
Downs should be able to platoon a little with every position. If his bat shows up like last year then hopefully Mills is able to get him in more regularly and before the seventh inning.
conroestro - February 8, 2012 via mobile
Sorry to keep replying to myself but with Downs I meant platooning at 3B, 2B, 1B, RF, LF, and maybe short. Basically the non premium positions.
conroestro - February 8, 2012 via mobile
I don’t mind platooning, but only when the player has been identified as needing to be platooned. Wallace has had reverse splits in the minors and while I realize that’s more of an exception than the rule, it’s still necessary to find that out at the major league level for all players.
And I can see why it can help development but I can also see why it would curb development. You want the player to have confidence and platooning does provide some of that, however sitting against a certain type of pitcher does little to instill confidence. It could cause a number of psychological thinking that lessens their own worth against that type of pitcher. Doubt can creep into their mind. In that regard the players growth has just been stunted.
I think players understand they may struggle at the big league level, shielding them from that struggle may have the opposite effect intended.
Timothy De Block - February 9, 2012
that last line should've been the first.
I know i’ll be disappointed alot this season. but damn, it’s good to have baseball back.
HTown80 - February 8, 2012 via Android app
exciting/interesting
Looks like it should be an exciting/interesting year for the Astros even if they come close to losing 100 games this season again.
jdeleon - February 8, 2012
Good article
My opening day 25 man prediction:
C Snyder
1B Lee
2B Altuve
SS Lowrie
3B Johnson
RF Bogusevic
CF Bourgeois
LF JD Martinez
Bench: Cust, Downs, Quintero, Gonzalez, Shuck
Rotation: Myers, Wandy, Norris, Happ, Livan
Bullpen: Duke, Escalona, Cruz, Abreu, Lyon, Lopez, Carpenter
Castro, Wallace, Schafer, Paredes, and Fernando Martinez all start out in AAA. Same for Lyles, Harrell, Weiland, Aneury, EDR, Leon, Sosa, and Clemens. Abad and Wright will be 40 man casualties to make room for Duke and Livan. All the other NRIs will be released or in AAA.
I’m calling 65 wins.
Snake Diggity - February 8, 2012
More thoughts
I still wouldn’t be surprised by a trade or two involving Myers, Wandy, or Lee.
CJ has to have the edge entering ST.
AAA should field a very good team this year.
Snake Diggity - February 8, 2012
Would love
If Fernando Martinez could reach 85 to 90% of his prospect potential. Love to see us have got a guy that we got on waivers be a long time starter
astrosfan1989 - February 8, 2012
I could easily see Wright on the OPR rather than Duke.
And it appears Castro is ahead of schedule, but he really needs to start in AAA, unless he finds his form during spring training, if he really is ahead of shedule.
I also think Schafer is going to be starting at CF. Without looking at the advanced metrics, I really don’t understand why some of y’all are so low on him. I still see tons of potential. He didn’t really seemed overmatched at all. He’d destroy AAA.
ccislanders - February 8, 2012 via mobile
I agree with you.
conroestro - February 8, 2012 via mobile
You’re probably right. Hell, my 25 man prediction is pretty much shot already after the news that Wallace is going to get an equal shot at 3B. I think Luhnow may be trying slow the prospects down at the upper levels and speed up the guys at the lower levels. At this point, I think he might have Wallace slotted as the backup/platoon at 3B and 1B. To make room for this I think Downs will be made the starting 2B and Altuve and Paredes will be sent to AAA.
C: Snyder/Q
1B Lee
2B Downs
SS Lowrie/Marwin – if Marwin really struggles in ST, then he’ll be sent back to the Cubs and Sanchez will take his place.
3B Wallace/Johnson
RF Bogusevic
CF Bourgeois/Shuck – if Schafer has a really good ST he could take Shuck’s place. Also there’s an outside chance one of the NRIs has an unignorable ST and take’s Shuck’s spot.
LF Martinez/Cust
Snake Diggity - February 9, 2012
Surprized it's not here yet, unless it's a fanshot.
The Astros agreed with Lowrie on a 1 yr-1.15 milion deal, of course with performance bonuses and stuff. Plus, we’re avoiding arbitration! Woohoo!
ccislanders - February 8, 2012 via mobile
Not a bad contract at all IMO.
Subber10 - February 8, 2012
Better than Happ’s.
conroestro - February 8, 2012 via mobile
I'm still baffled.
ccislanders - February 8, 2012 via mobile
Jonathan Mayo released his astros top 20 today. Surprised it hasn’t been discussed yet. One of the more interesting things I took from it was that Ruben Alaniz is hitting 97 with his fastball. Was not expecting that at all.
Subber10 - February 8, 2012
I was able to read it.
I’m not an expert or anything, but I pretty much agree with it.
He loves Singleton and Santana<(sorta)
ccislanders - February 8, 2012 via mobile
A lot to like with both of them.
Subber10 - February 8, 2012
Surprised that Adrian Houser didn’t make the list. Surprised at the Folty placement, definitely higher than I expected.
Subber10 - February 8, 2012
That's right. I saw Trop and thought "wonder what he has to say about Houser?", then I frogot all about him.
And Folty may’ve been a little low, but nothing to insulting. I was also bummed Kvas made it(no offense, could’ve been Houser).
ccislanders - February 8, 2012 via mobile
Typing on mobile phone sucks...
ccislanders - February 8, 2012 via mobile
i expected Folty in the back end of the top 10, not 5.
Subber10 - February 8, 2012
doh! I blanked, I was thinking he was exactly #10.
But ya, he may be a little higher than he should be. I see why he likes him so much. He’s got alot of potential, and shown signs of dominaton.
ccislanders - February 8, 2012 via mobile
Look out for Alaniz. Been pimping him for the last 2 seasons.
I’m surprised that Houser, Armstrong, and a few others didn’t make the top 20 over Kvasnicka.
Snake Diggity - February 9, 2012
According to FanGraphs, the Astros are now a "Highly Analytical Team"
http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/2012-sabermetric-teams-the-market-for-saber-players/
D-does that mean they aren’t going to make fun of us anymore?
OremLK - February 9, 2012
I’m not seeing any fanposts in my sidebar; anyone know what’s up with that?
Snake Diggity - February 9, 2012
They were having issues with the network yesterday, that may be what was causing the issue.
Timothy De Block - February 9, 2012
Signal interference from the mother ship. If you have any odd dreams about being abducted by aliens, contact your local Sector 7 rep.
But yeah, I was wondering that too.
CRPerry13 - February 9, 2012
Luhnow confirms that young players on last year's roster aren't guaranteed spots.
I thought this is an interesting answer by Luhnow to a question about Lyles’ role next year. Luhnow made a general response about all of the young players, indicating that some may need more development in the minors, but that they won’t be blocked if they can win spots on the ML roster.
clack - February 10, 2012
I love this.
MadMartygan - February 10, 2012
me too
Joe in Birmingham - February 12, 2012
61 players in spring training
Isn’t that too many?
Joe in Birmingham - February 12, 2012
do you mean by rule? or practically?
no rule against it. but that’s a lot of players and it makes managing spring training more difficult.
clack - February 12, 2012
I thought they had about that many last year.
Timothy De Block - February 12, 2012
you are right, Timothy...
I spoke too soon. As I count last year’s spring training roster, it was 62.
clack - February 12, 2012
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